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 Post subject: Cause of my problems?
PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2007, 13:35 
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Some of you may recall i posted recently in the Linux section trying to recover my HDD data after what i thought was an XP corruption.
However, i contionue to have the problem (locks up both in XP and during installation, as well as once whilst running the Ubuntu live CD) so i'm looking at possible hardware causes.
Whilst browsing my BIOS 'PC Health' menu i noticed it was reading that my Tagan 480W PSU was drooping to 11.8V on the 12V rail, so i changed it out for my 530W Modular and got an even worse reading of 11.73
Any feelings/suggestions? Is this droop enough to have caused the crashing?

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my +12v is regularly 11.88v and have no problems whatsoever

have measured the voltage at the molex (+12v) and it was spot on

don't think it'd be related to that tbh

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what he said ^^

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ATX spec requires 5% tolerance on +12v, so 11.4-12.6v. Although I have seen random system lockups and seemingly failing hard drives due to being too low. But doubt 11.8v would cause any problem. Also as said, the BIOS reading isn't always the same as the actual voltage measured at the molex connector. Could try reducing the power load on the system though, like removing powerful video card, underclocking CPU, 1 memory module, 1 drive, etc.
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ok thanks for the opinions, i'll discount the psu for the time-being then.

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can't remember if you mentioned doing it

have you tried a bootable memtest?

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hughlle wrote:
can't remember if you mentioned doing it

have you tried a bootable memtest?

no, mainly because i don't know how :roll:

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well probably worth a go :)

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Servers 12v rail runs at 10.5v most of the time happily - should really replace it sometime!

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Floppy drive required, or maybe a USB disk these day?? Haven't tried the USB yet. Should actually.

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bootable cd/dvd version of memtest ftw :D

can download the .iso somewhere, then its just a simple case of burning and rebooting

nvm, see hugh linked to the iso :P

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I've done a fresh install with my original XP (no slipstreamed SP2 etc) which is running ok so i can use the standard in-Windows MemTest - results shortly

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-- HP DV1000: T2300 | 1GB PC2-4200 | Ubuntu 7.10

Offline for the moment:
-- 1Ghz PIII | Lex BN-800E (Mini-ITX) | 640MB PC133 | WD1200 | LiteOn SLW-831S | FSP180-50PLA
-- P4 Nw 2.56 (XP-90Al) | GA-8PE667 | 1GB PC2700 | XFX FX5200 LP | WD1200JB | TG420-U02
-- Dual Opteron 240 (XP-90C) | GA-7A8DW | 1GB Reg PC3200 | Radeon 9000 | WD2500KS, WD5000AAKS | TG530-U15

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Well i've run two tests concurrently since my last post and have had no errors so far.

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-- HP DV1000: T2300 | 1GB PC2-4200 | Ubuntu 7.10

Offline for the moment:
-- 1Ghz PIII | Lex BN-800E (Mini-ITX) | 640MB PC133 | WD1200 | LiteOn SLW-831S | FSP180-50PLA
-- P4 Nw 2.56 (XP-90Al) | GA-8PE667 | 1GB PC2700 | XFX FX5200 LP | WD1200JB | TG420-U02
-- Dual Opteron 240 (XP-90C) | GA-7A8DW | 1GB Reg PC3200 | Radeon 9000 | WD2500KS, WD5000AAKS | TG530-U15

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